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Hot Rod Nitro FireBall
Flown on 9 to 18 engines and
launched 6 second stage rockets in flight
Team project by Boris
Katan and David Mackiernan of
HotRod Rocketry
7 feet tall by 4 inches diameter. Flight weight 14 pounds.
Click on any
picture to enlarge.
Amazing Onboard Video - 18 engines fired, 2 stages, 7 rockets, one flight! (flight 2:
LDRS - 8MB) |
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Hot Rod Nitro FireBall flight 3
9/19/09 CMASS Amesbury, MA |
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The flight was a fun one, on a clear and windy day.
My son Paul showing the business end of stage 1.
David, Alan and I up to no good at the pad.
The liftoff
sequence of 5 pictures as quick as the Canon XS will go, 3 frames per
second.
The H255 fires quickly, only half the D11s are ignited.
Ignition of the 6x second stage Nitros is exciting and mostly successful. 5
are fired and 4 fly upwards
Recovery of central rocket is good, using deployment bag and 7' chute.

The Nitros quickly filled the sky, shooting off in all directions. One even
headed straight down and pranged under power. That's why everyone was 200+
feet back.
It may have been bumped, turbulence and wind were big factors too. This
Nitro was the only thing damaged in the flight.
Main rocket only went up 448ft, due to a few engines not fired, weather
cocking, and planned moderate impulse. Thrust at the pad was reduced 18% due
to stage 1 motors not fired, 5 of 6 showed signs that the ematches fired,
but not the BP motors. Made sure in advance that BP was visible at the
bottom of each motor nozzle.
The Nitro's ematches were held in place with Estes igniter plugs, usually I
use tape. The plugs worked well for 5 of the Nitros, but one ematch was
damaged by jamming in the plug, and that's the Nitro that stayed with the
main rocket all the way back to the ground.
Unfortunately, the onboard video camera shut off before the flight took off.
Pre-Flight Planning:
Prepped similarly to the way it was at LDRS for flight 2, except:
1) Less thrust on the main rocket. About 2/3 of LDRS flight, resulting in
reduced acceleration and wind speed that the Nitros have to deal with 0.6
seconds into flight when they are ignited.
Stage one has 1x CTI/AMW 29mm 6 grain H255 Blue and 12x Estes D11-P motors.
(dual ematches in the H for insurance)
The 6x stage 2 Hot Rod Nitros has the same D12-5 motors as previously.
2) Stage 2 Nitros are slightly more snugly mounted to the stage 1 main
rocket. |
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Will fly again next spring, with a quicker burning first stage and later
firing second stage, to try to improve directional control of the Nitros....
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Hot Rod Nitro FireBall flight 2
7/3/09 LDRS 28 Potter, NY |
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great
sequence of liftoff pictures by Neil McGilvray and Todd Haring
The
Hot Rod Nitro Fireball project flew well at LDRS. Fired 18 of 19 installed
motors, using 5 different motors from 4 manufacturers:
All motors fired by Rocketflite MF ematches boosted with Rocketflite ML
pyrogen, both ejection charges were also fired by MF ematches.
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Stage 1:
1x AMW Pro-X 29mm H170 Blue Streak
2x AT G71 Redlines
4x Roadrunner G80-10 (smoky motors, one of these did not ignite,
usually these fire quickly)
6x Estes D11-P (at the fin tips)
The H was in the center providing the long flame tail, surrounded
by the 6x G motors pumping red and black into the flame. The BP motors
in the fin tips fed their flame into the AP fireball below the rocket
to good effect.
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Stage 2: Were the 6x Hot Rod Rockets Nitro rockets each powered by a
D12-5.
Fired by a Perfectflite MT3G timer at 0.6 seconds. These all fired and went
in an upward direction to cool effect.
However, they appear to have been buffeted hard by turbulence from the main
rocket, and were not pointed straight up immediately after separation. We
will have to "fine tune" this part for the next attempt.
Fired stage one impulse was J powered at about 840Ns. Stage two added about
another 100Ns. The complete rocket weighed 14.0 lbs at RSO inspection.
The main rocket (AKA Ultimate FireBall) reached an altitude of 1272ft and
deployed 3ft drogue at apogee.
Second ejection charge fired at 400ft, but the main jammed, fortunately the
very soft muddy ground prevented any damage due to the quick landing.
Pre-Flight
Planning:
Updated the long flight setup checklist
based on lessons learned from the first flight and replaced timer switch. |
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Videos:
Amazing Onboard Video - 18 engines fired, 2 stages, 7 rockets, one flight! (flight 2:
LDRS - 8MB)
same onboard video, cleaner image, but no
slow motion replay (15MB QuickTime)
Movie made
from sequence of liftoff still images (2MB)
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Description of "Amazing Onboard Video" captured by the onboard Aiptek GO-HD
in the nose cone: First part of the 8MB video is the launch
at normal speed, second part is first few seconds slowed 16X.
In the slo-mo can see:
- the very energetic (and sparky) firing of the Rocketflite MF ematches
boosted with ML pyrogen firing 18 of the 19 installed engines
- the flash of blue as the AMW/CTI H170 Blue comes up to pressure first
- 11 other motors coming to life in a flash
- the 6x Hot Rod Nitro rockets firing and separating from the main rocket,
several of them tumbling and spinning end over end as they started their
separate flights! |
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Hot Rod Nitro FireBall flight 1
4/29/09 CMASS Amesbury, MA |
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Pre-Flight Planning:
Motors ignited at the pad: 3x G77R, 4x F40W, 6x D11-P. Using the same
Rocketflite MF ematches wired in series and parallel configuration described
in detail on the Rocketflite page of this website. Initial flight weight 13
lbs.
At 0.6 seconds a Perfectflite MT3G timer will fire the 6x Nitro second
stages.
The Nitros have initial separation liftoff weight of 4.8 oz and are fired by
1x D12-5 each.
Thrust curves and rocket weights appear to confirm that the
second stage rockets will pull quickly away from the first stage carrier
rocket. Did not attempt to use RockSim due to project complexity.
Using the online sim at webalt.markworld.com :
Separation at 0.6 seconds occurs at
> altitude: 50ft
> acceleration: 120 lbs thrust / 10Gs
> speed: 140 mph
at 0.8 seconds
> the main rocket continues to accelerate at a gradually reducing rate
> the 6x Nitros have peak acceleration of 18+ Gs quickly pulling away from
the main rocket
Nitros use apogee streamer recovery.
Ultimate FireBall uses proven setup of apogee drogue and main at 400 ft. |
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before and after flight

Lift off was slow on a column of fire, reaching only 484 ft.
Main rocket completed a clean recovery using deployment bag.
While the flight was safe,
three elements of the flight failed.
> Two of the G77Rs failed to light. This had a lot to do with the low
altitude. As they were both on the same series string of ematches, suspect
that part of the circuit lost continuity during the complex setup at the
pad.
> Two of the outboard D11-Ps failed to light. For the first time, tried
using wadding under tape to hold the ematches in place, but this approach
did not work well.
> The timer switch failed, so the 6x Nitros did not fire. The Nitros stayed with the main rocket until apogee
drogue deployment,
then they separated and fell to the ground. |
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Videos: Onboard
video (9MB QuickTime)
Pad Cam
Video by Bill Spadafora (youtube) |
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Hot Rod Nitro FireBall the build |

We took the 7ft tall x 4in diameter Ultimate
FireBall, built a "Ring of Fire" and screwed to the fins.
David and rocket.
Ring of Fire: 1.6" cardboard tubing
first stage pods with 1/8" plywood tabs that screw onto fins.
Joined and reinforced the tail assembly with 3" x 1/8" basswood strips just
over 4" long.
Reinforced with 3oz fiberglass and painted with epoxy internally.
Then mounted 6x
Nitro rockets to it. |
In the electronics bay: Perfectflite HA45K altimeter (to dual
deploy the main rocket) and MT3G timer (to fire the 6x Nitros). The banana
plugs will be taped to the side of the rocket, carry ignition power to the
Nitros, and later separate at apogee deployment. The dual Duracell 9V
alkalines are wired in parallel and power both devices. |

To capture onboard video:
Picked up an Aiptek GO HD video camera.
Cut out an opening in the PML 4" NC.
Cut dense foam padding to shape and made a basic wood frame from 1/8" ply.
Not pictured is 2 tie wraps and some tape that will pin it all together for
flight. |